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Lift bar hitting the center spindle on 48" deck.
02 Jun 2015 17:05 #1
by Kurt-NEPA
1988 520H
1995 520H
1998 520xi
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1950 Ford 8N
1955 Ford 660
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Lift bar hitting the center spindle on 48" deck. was created by Kurt-NEPA
I was so successful rebuilding the spindles on my 48" SD deck that I knew something had go wrong (Geno, you were right, it went too easy). I had the deck running nicely on my 93 520H, but that tractor is a basket case. It needs some engine work and lots of paint and TLC, not to mention rear axle work..
So I decided to move the deck to my 88 520H that is running and looking decent. I had a 42"RD on it that I never liked. Anyway, I swapped the decks and started the engine. Everything sounded OK until I used the hydraulics to lift the deck, that's when the sparks started to fly. I dropped the lift and tried to mow a bit just to test it. Then I took a close look, The grease zerk on the center spindle is gone and the treads on the top of spindle shaft are bozo'd. The lift bar was hitting the center spindle. Something is clearly not right here.
I'm going to dis-mount the deck tomorrow and take a close look. I almost looks like the lift bar is dropping down dead center over the spindle and not off to the side like I would expect. Not sure what to do from here. I looked at the lift bar on my 93 and its centered too and but looks like its been ground down a bit on the bottom. I might try that. Maybe, I've got some wrong parts causing problems. I've had that happen way too many times on old tractors. My gut feeling is that something is wrong with lift linkage parts. They seem too close to the deck. I had problems getting the belt on.
I wish my manuals were clearer. Any thoughts anyone.
Pardon my rant.
So I decided to move the deck to my 88 520H that is running and looking decent. I had a 42"RD on it that I never liked. Anyway, I swapped the decks and started the engine. Everything sounded OK until I used the hydraulics to lift the deck, that's when the sparks started to fly. I dropped the lift and tried to mow a bit just to test it. Then I took a close look, The grease zerk on the center spindle is gone and the treads on the top of spindle shaft are bozo'd. The lift bar was hitting the center spindle. Something is clearly not right here.
I'm going to dis-mount the deck tomorrow and take a close look. I almost looks like the lift bar is dropping down dead center over the spindle and not off to the side like I would expect. Not sure what to do from here. I looked at the lift bar on my 93 and its centered too and but looks like its been ground down a bit on the bottom. I might try that. Maybe, I've got some wrong parts causing problems. I've had that happen way too many times on old tractors. My gut feeling is that something is wrong with lift linkage parts. They seem too close to the deck. I had problems getting the belt on.
I wish my manuals were clearer. Any thoughts anyone.
Pardon my rant.
1988 520H
1995 520H
1998 520xi
2000 522xi
1950 Ford 8N
1955 Ford 660
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02 Jun 2015 18:52 #2
by nappypappy
1985 416-8
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Replied by nappypappy on topic Lift bar hitting the center spindle on 48" deck.
Sorry but all I can think of is you need a front mount....end of that problem....Kurt-NEPA wrote: I was so successful rebuilding the spindles on my 48" SD deck that I knew something had go wrong (Geno, you were right, it went too easy). I had the deck running nicely on my 93 520H, but that tractor is a basket case. It needs some engine work and lots of paint and TLC, not to mention rear axle work..
So I decided to move the deck to my 88 520H that is running and looking decent. I had a 42"RD on it that I never liked. Anyway, I swapped the decks and started the engine. Everything sounded OK until I used the hydraulics to lift the deck, that's when the sparks started to fly. I dropped the lift and tried to mow a bit just to test it. Then I took a close look, The grease zerk on the center spindle is gone and the treads on the top of spindle shaft are bozo'd. The lift bar was hitting the center spindle. Something is clearly not right here.
I'm going to dis-mount the deck tomorrow and take a close look. I almost looks like the lift bar is dropping down dead center over the spindle and not off to the side like I would expect. Not sure what to do from here. I looked at the lift bar on my 93 and its centered too and but looks like its been ground down a bit on the bottom. I might try that. Maybe, I've got some wrong parts causing problems. I've had that happen way too many times on old tractors. My gut feeling is that something is wrong with lift linkage parts. They seem too close to the deck. I had problems getting the belt on.
I wish my manuals were clearer. Any thoughts anyone.
Pardon my rant.
1985 416-8
520-H
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
I can't see the forest for the trees.
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03 Jun 2015 08:22 #6
by M Bailey
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Replied by M Bailey on topic Lift bar hitting the center spindle on 48" deck.
Kurt I'd take a close look at the tach-a-matic and make sure the carriage is seated properly and the hitch shaft fork (item 1) is engaged in the bar. After that check the carriage mounts and make sure they haven't shifted (items 15-17). Next check the transport stops (19) on each side and raise them up, this might be part of the problem if they are set too low.
Good luck and let us know what you find.
Good luck and let us know what you find.
Major
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03 Jun 2015 11:00 #8
by Kurt-NEPA
Well, I pulled the deck and checked things out.
Here is the problem
1. The spindle shaft is toast - the grease zerk went off sideways and wallered out the threaded hole. I think I could fix it, but the spindle is just not that expensive, so I'll order one..
2. The carriage was seated in the tach-a-matic as it should be. Nice and tight
3. The carriage mounts (15-17) are tight and where they belong.
4. The transport locks were in the full down position (or is that full up). The bolts were all the way down.
My plan - raise the transport lock bolts to the top. Grind a bit off the bottom of the lift bar. We'll see what happens. I'll order a new spindle and replace that later.
1988 520H
1995 520H
1998 520xi
2000 522xi
1950 Ford 8N
1955 Ford 660
Single Stage Blower
2-Two Stage Blowers
Replied by Kurt-NEPA on topic Lift bar hitting the center spindle on 48" deck.
M Bailey wrote: Kurt I'd take a close look at the tach-a-matic and make sure the carriage is seated properly and the hitch shaft fork (item 1) is engaged in the bar. After that check the carriage mounts and make sure they haven't shifted (items 15-17). Next check the transport stops (19) on each side and raise them up, this might be part of the problem if they are set too low.
Well, I pulled the deck and checked things out.
Here is the problem
1. The spindle shaft is toast - the grease zerk went off sideways and wallered out the threaded hole. I think I could fix it, but the spindle is just not that expensive, so I'll order one..
2. The carriage was seated in the tach-a-matic as it should be. Nice and tight
3. The carriage mounts (15-17) are tight and where they belong.
4. The transport locks were in the full down position (or is that full up). The bolts were all the way down.
My plan - raise the transport lock bolts to the top. Grind a bit off the bottom of the lift bar. We'll see what happens. I'll order a new spindle and replace that later.
1988 520H
1995 520H
1998 520xi
2000 522xi
1950 Ford 8N
1955 Ford 660
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03 Jun 2015 11:57 #9
by Geno
Replied by Geno on topic Lift bar hitting the center spindle on 48" deck.
The arm should be a little to the right, putting the grease fitting to the left of the bar. It will still be really close. For what you are trying to fix, the deck needs to go toward the left or the arm needs to go toward the right.
The carriage stops will only affect the raised height of the rear wheels when the deck is raised, they should always be adjusted all the way up, in almost every case that is still not enough.
Here are some pics of one in the shop.
The carriage stops will only affect the raised height of the rear wheels when the deck is raised, they should always be adjusted all the way up, in almost every case that is still not enough.
Here are some pics of one in the shop.
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